An Interview with Barb Goffman, author of Don't Get Mad, Get Even
When
I think “short stories,” the name that comes to mind most often is “Barb
Goffman.” Barb has been nominated for the Agatha Award five times, and the
Anthony and Macavity awards twice each.
Recently,
she agreed to answer some of my questions about her work.
1 Barb, how did you get started writing short stories?
It was early 2004. I’d been working on a novel,
and I saw a call for stories for Chesapeake
Crimes II from my local chapter of Sisters in Crime. I’d never written a
mystery short story before—and frankly, I hadn’t read any either—but I thought
this anthology might provide an easier way for me to break into the mystery
scene than my then-unfinished novel. So I read the first Chesapeake Crimes anthology and a bunch of short stories by Jan
Burke to learn about story structure and plot. Then I came up with a plot
giving me psychological revenge against whoever stole a beautiful ring of mine
at the 2004 Sleuthfest conference. I wrote and submitted the story, it was
accepted and published, and about six months after that, I was nominated for
the Agatha Award. It was one of the best moments of my life and a real impetus
to keep writing short stories, which I’ve come to adore. They really suit my
temperament.
2. What pointers could you give to authors who want to get started
writing short stories? Do you have any personal “rules” that you follow?
·
Read a bunch of mystery short
stories. Study how other authors construct their stories. Let the structure
become second nature to you.
·
Know where you’re going
before you start writing. I recognize that this advice probably won’t help
people who naturally write by the seat of their pants, but I’m a plotter, and
for me, if I didn’t know the end result I wanted in a story, chances are my
characters would wander around without going anywhere exciting. And if and when
I did figure out the tale I wanted to tell, I’d end up with a lot of extraneous
story that ultimately would have to be cut. So my advice: Do the thinking first
and the writing should be easier.
·
Get in and out early.
With a short story, you’re telling one specific story. It’s not a family saga.
It’s not a novel with subplots. It’s one tight tale. Start the story as far
into the action as you can while still getting in all the information you need
to. And when you hit the sweet spot at the end—the twist or epiphany—wrap it up
quickly. Don’t step on your ending. (This can be easier said than done, I
know.)
·
Every scene should
advance the plot. There should be no scenes designed simply to show character
or to provide setting or to build your world (such as if you’re writing a
historical story). Character formation and setting and world-building should be
done while you’re advancing the plot.
·
Every character should
have a purpose for advancing the plot. If you’re writing a story with three
friends, when two could get the job done, kill off that third friend. You don’t
need her!
·
Always carry a pen and
paper to jot down ideas. You never know when and where they’ll strike.
Middle-of-the-night ideas can be great. Force yourself to get up and write them
down. Don’t think you’ll remember them in the morning. You won’t.
·
Read your work aloud so
you can hear if it flows and sounds natural and if your characters come alive
off the page.
·
Don’t edit only on the
screen. You’ll miss things.
3 Since you help edit at least one short story anthology, what tips
can you give to authors who hope to be published in a short story anthology?
Any ideas about how to stand out in a crowd? As the editor, what’s the biggest
problem (or the most frequent) problem you see in the submissions?
Before answering, I should point out that as an editor of the Chesapeake Crimes anthology series, I
don’t choose the stories that are accepted. For each volume, we use a varying three-person
committee of authors who read the submissions without knowing who wrote each
story, and they choose the stories that are accepted. Then Donna Andrews,
Marcia Talley, and I edit the stories and put the anthology together for
Wildside Press. I do read all the submitted stories, however, so I can answer
your questions.
How to stand out in the crowd:
·
Follow the instructions.
If an anthology’s rules specify a word limit, meet it. If the editor wants
submissions to have one-inch margins, do it. Don’t think these submission
requirements are no big deal and that you’ll adjust your story once it’s
accepted. While it’s possible your story will be accepted despite any such
deficiencies, it’s also possible the editor will have one slot left and several
stories that could fill it. The author who followed instructions may be looked
upon more favorably than one who didn’t. You want the editor to think you’ll be
easy to work with and respectful of her time, not expecting the editor to do
the work asked of you in the first place.
·
Try to be different. For
instance, in the upcoming Chesapeake
Crimes: Homicidal Holidays (Wildside Press 2014) we asked for crime stories
involving any holiday. I figured we’d get a lot of Christmas stories, so I
submitted a story involving Groundhog Day. It was the only Groundhog Day story
submitted, and it was accepted. Did my unusual choice of a holiday help? I
don’t know, but I like to hedge my bets.
·
Consider using an
unusual setting to grab an editor’s attention. For example, in Chesapeake Crimes: They Had It Comin’ we
had two stories set abroad, one in India, the other in Japan. These settings
stood out among the remaining stories, all set in the United States.
·
Highlight an unusual
custom in your story, since readers often like learning new things. For
example, my story “The Lord Is My Shamus” involves a Jewish family during the
period they should be sitting shiva
(a formal mourning period after a Jewish person’s funeral). While this custom
probably isn’t considered unusual to anyone who is Jewish or who lives around
Jewish people, I figured it might be new to a large number of readers.
The biggest problem I see in submissions:
The problems will vary per story, but
ultimately, stories that aren’t accepted often have a major deficiency. It
could be that the writing isn’t clear or is vague and you can tell the author
couldn’t get the idea from his head onto the paper. Or the story will meander
in the middle, and it feels as if the author got lost or got too invested in
description and showing how beautiful his writing is. Or the story is boring
because the author obviously did a lot of research and decided to put all of it
in the story, even though a little bit would have gone a long way. Or the
author nears the end of the story and has the main character start telling a
lot of back story so the reader can understand what happened and why.
That’s not to say that every story that’s
rejected has a major deficiency. Sometimes stories are rejected because they’re
too similar to another story that was accepted or simply because they didn’t
meet the taste of the editor making the choices, or—especially with prestigious
publications—the story is great, but the editor only has two open slots and 200
submissions. Nonetheless with many stories, there is a problem with the
telling.
I believe one way to address such problems is to
join a good critique group and/or hire a good editor. I know there are a number
of established authors who don’t use critique groups and feel they aren’t
necessary. But to me, critique groups can be invaluable in catching plot holes
or mechanical difficulties or boring passages—problems that hold stories back
from their full potential and could result in the story being rejected. Every
author, no matter if she’s a newbie or is multi-published, can benefit from a
second pair of eyes. And that’s what a critique group/editor really is, so I
recommend them highly. But the author has to be open to hearing what’s good and
bad in her work and to making adjustments.
It’s also important to be in a good critique group and/or have a good editor. A good group or editor will
highlight the things an author does well so she can capitalize on those
abilities, as well as help the author spot her weakness so she can address them
and improve her work. Groups that only give praise don’t help the author
improve. Groups that only spot problems can be debilitating to the author’s creative
spirit. You need a balance.
4 How do you come up with your ideas? What gets your thought process
flowing? Are there any unusual resources you rely on?
I like anthology prompts. The challenge of
meeting a prompt often gets my creative juices flowing.
Newspaper articles also can inspire me. For
instance, I read an article a few months ago that said many people in Los
Angeles consider who are a size six to be obese. To me, that’s one of those huh moments. I know a lot of women—me
included—who would kill to be a size six. So I wrote a story in which the main
character is a size eight, and her friends consider her fat, and that fact
plays a key role in the plot. I like being able to make a point about ridiculous
body expectations while entertaining the reader with a good tale. (That story,
“Dead and Buried Treasure,” will appear in the Halloween mystery anthology All Hallows’ Evil, scheduled for release
on September 18th.)
I also get a lot of ideas in the shower. All of
the sudden, I’ll hear voices in my head, and I’ll think, that’s an interesting
opening for a story. Or, ooh, that character sounds interesting. Who is she? I
probably come up with a lot of ideas in the shower because I don’t have
anything else for my mind to do at those times. I can’t read while I’m in the
shower, can’t watch TV, etc., and using soap and shampoo isn’t that mentally
taxing, so my mind is free to actually think.
Really, ideas can come from anywhere. Last year
I learned that a large church property near my house had once been a nudist
colony and there had been a murder there many years ago. I wondered where a
nudist would hide a murder weapon. and the story ideas flowed from there. (That
story became “Murder a la Mode,” which appeared last year in the Thanksgiving
anthology The Killer Wore Cranberry: A
Second Helping.)
I don’t have any unusual resources I rely on
except, perhaps, sleep. If I go to sleep trying to figure out how to fix a plot
problem, I’ll sometimes wake up in the morning with a solution. So my advice is
to keep your eyes and ears open. You never know where or when you’ll encounter
some information or a photo or something that makes the voices in your head
come alive or helps a solution to a plotting problem become evident.
Please describe your process for us.
When starting a story, I’ll often sit with a pad of paper and jot
down ideas. For example, with my story “Biscuits, Carats, and Gravy,” (which is
available in my collection), I wanted to write a crime story involving gravy.
(The story call asked for funny crime stories involving Thanksgiving food.) So
I thought about how gravy could figure into a crime. Poisoning came to mind. I
wrote it down. But that seemed obvious, so I kept thinking. Then I thought that
something could be hidden in gravy. So I wrote that down. And I thought, what
could be hidden in gravy and why? Each idea generated new questions and new
ideas about plot and character. As often happens with me, I ended up with a
sheet of paper filled with possible ideas and arrows leading from one idea to
another. When I’m in this plotting stage, at some point, I’ll feel I’ve come up
with a plot and characters that excite me. I’ll circle the key ideas that
figure into my final idea, and then I’ll start writing.
I know that you recently lost your wonderful dog, Scout. I believe
that authors have a unique bond with their animals because we spend so much of
our time at home with them. Could you tell us about Scout and about the
memorial service for him?
Thank you for asking about Scout. He was an
amazing dog. He was a lab/shepherd/malamute mix. By the time I adopted him from
the SPCA, he was six years old and had already been dumped twice. He’d had
cancer so a lot of people probably didn’t want to take a chance on him. Yet he
was still so open and loving. He would bark ferociously and scare away
solicitors. He loved chasing sticks and trying to catch leaves I swept off the
deck. He liked interrupting my writing over and over, wanting to go out and
come in, incessantly. He was my best friend.
After I adopted him, Scout survived two more
battles with cancer, a splenectomy, the removal of a benign tumor on his butt,
a torn ACL, so many cysts, and more. Yet he still loved going to the vet. He
loved everyone. In the end, his arthritis became unacceptably debilitating and
painful to him, so I had to let him go. But I miss him every day. And I feel a
little guilty that I’m getting so much more writing done now that he’s not here
to nudge me for treats or to open the door or simply to give him some love.
Thanks to author Sandy Parshall, I was able to
host an online memorial service for Scout on the blog Poe’s Deadly Daughters.
Rabbi (and author) Ilene Schneider gave a nice eulogy and many people shared
their memories of Scout. It really helped me begin to heal. I decided to have
an online service because so many of my friends and family are scattered, and
so many people knew Scout from Facebook, so memorializing him online made
sense.
I also recently wrote a short story involving a
dog partly as a way to honor Scout. The dog in the story is named Maxwell in
memory of author Ellery Adams’s childhood dog, but when I wrote the story, I
pictured Scout. I’ve submitted that story to an anthology, and I hope to have
good news soon.
What are your future plans? You’re very involved in Malice
Domestic. Could you tell our readers what that’s all about?
Future plans: This is a timely question, Joanna.
I’m thrilled to announce publicly for the first time that I’m about to launch
my own editing service for crime fiction. The business’ website isn’t up yet,
and some logistics still need to be worked out, but by the end of the month I
should be open for business. I love editing, and the authors I’ve worked with
have been pretty happy with the results, so I’m excited to start this new
venture. I’ll offer copy-editing services as well as story-development editing.
Anyone interested can email me at GoffmanEditing {[{at}]} gmail {[{ dot }]} com
(eliminating the {[{ and }]} marks, of course).
You also asked about Malice Domestic. Malice is
one of the largest mystery conventions in the United States. For the past 25
years, Malice has been celebrating the traditional mystery. Each spring,
between 500 and 600 mystery readers and authors travel to Bethesda, Maryland
(right outside D.C.) for the convention. Authors participate on panels and in
other activities. Readers have the chance to meet their favorite authors, learn
about new authors, buy books, have them signed, and basically get an inside
look at the writer’s world. The prestigious Agatha Award is also given out at
each Malice convention, voted on by fans in attendance. I’ve been program chair
for Malice since 2007, and I love it.
At the next Malice Domestic convention, scheduled
for May 2 – 4, 2014, our guest of honor will be Kathy Lynn Emerson, our
toastmaster will be Earlene Fowler, and we will be honoring three authors for
their lifetime achievements: Dorothy Cannell, Joan Hess, and Margaret Maron.
They all will be in attendance, as I hope you will be, Joanna. And I hope all
your readers will come, too. Learn more at www.MaliceDomestic.org.
Thank you for inviting me for this interview, Joanna. It’s been a
lot of fun!
About Barb Goffman…
Barb is the author of the recently
released Don’t Get Mad, Get Even (Wildside Press), a
collection of fifteen of her short stories, including five new stories and “The
Lord Is My Shamus,” currently nominated for the Anthony and Macavity awards to
be presented at Bouchercon in September. Barb says her short stories “often
focus on families because the people you know best are the ones you’ll most
likely want to kill.” Barb’s short stories have been nominated for the Agatha
Award five times, and the Anthony and the Macavity awards twice each. In her
spare time, Barb serves as a co-editor of the award-winning Chesapeake
Crimes series and as program chair of the Malice Domestic mystery
convention. She has a B.A. in Communications and Political Science, an M.S.J.
(masters of science in journalism), and a J.D. (juris doctor). Her website
is: www.barbgoffman.com.
18 comments:
Barb, there's a ton of great information in this post. Thanks so much for being so generous with your knowledge.
Great post! Barb, my teaching mantra for years has been: Know where you're going before you start. So good to hear you say that here.
Lots of other great tips - I'm sharing.
Thanks for giving me the opportunity, Joanna. It can be helpful for me, as well, to think about these things.
And thank you, Melodie. It's so much better to follow a road map - when driving or writing - to ensure you get to your destination using the most-efficient route.
I love the idea of sitting down and jotting notes. Duh! Why didn't I think of that?
Barb,
Great information about short story writing.
Excellent interview. I loved Barb's book of short stories. I read it on my Kindle and then bought several print copies for friends and family. It was a big hit.
Thanks, Jacqueline. :)
And oh, my God, Gail. I love you. Thank you!
Gail, it's on my TBR "pile" on my Kindle, too! I think Barb has a hit on her hands!
Great post. I love all the information here and congrats to your new business endeavor.
Thank you, Dru Ann!
And thanks again, Joanna, for hosting me on your blog today. I hope you enjoy the book!
Barb,
A truly wonderful post. I haven't written a short story in a long time. You've given me fruit for thought, along with lots of good advice.
I'm sorry your ring was stolen at a mystery conference, of all places.
An excellent post--very inspiring for an aspiring writer. One question--how does one find a helpful critique group? I don't know of any other aspiring writers in my location, though I'm sure there are.
Suzanne
Suzanne, Romance Writers of America has a lot of critique groups going all the time. Also, check with your local library. Sometimes people post a message asking for critique partners. Of course, many people who write crime fiction find compatible partners at MWA (Mystery Writers of America) or SinC (Sisters in Crime) meetings by asking around. I found my first critique group when I took a night class in writing. One of those sister students, Terri Kaminski, and I are friends to this day. We're both published authors now, which underscores how helpful the process can be.
Great post, Barb and Joanna. I loved Barb's book. I just finished my very first short story for an anthology, and wish I had read this post before I started writing. Good thing I haven't sent off the edited version yet. Best of luck with your business, Barb. I'm sure you'll be successful.
Polly, glad the timing was helpful.
Hi, Marilyn. I hope my suggestions are helpful to you. And oh, I was so upset when that ring was stolen, but I got my first published story out of it, so I guess it's evened out. Sort of. :)
Suzanne, thank you. Joanna's tips are good ones. What kind of fiction do you write? If it's crime, I strongly suggest joining Sisters in Crime. There may be a chapter near you. And if there's not, there's an online group for new writers called the Guppies. You could definitely find a critique group there. Good luck!
And thank you, Polly, about the tips and my new business. I can't wait to read your story.
Great tips! Thanks for sharing.
Morgan Mandel
http://www.morganmandel.com
Thanks, Morgan!
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